Her 27 knot top speed has the illusion of meaning something only because she's an American battleship. All other American battleships from tier VII and below cap out around 21 knots as their top speed. With the nerfing to American Standard-type battleship agility with patch 0.9.6 Florida's speed advantage is even more pronounced. Were she a battleship from any other nation, her 27 knot top speed would be unremarkable. So yes, Florida is faster than Colorado or California. Big deal. So is everything else at this tier. Double Down, Ohio! Horrible rudder shift time of 15.4 seconds. +4% increased dispersion of enemy shells. Ships with stars have been changed or added since patch 0.9.6. +1 on the review but I am enjoying the Florida. She doesn't have a nigh-impervious citadel like Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Certainly can defend herself against carriers with her decent AA. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). As for the ship herself, WG pitched her at someone who wants a moderately fast (not quite 30kt, but not 20 either) US BB with lots of gun barrels at Tier 7. For example, I loved the Hipper class and Prinz Eugen while most view them as meh at best. California's citadel (in yellow) is fully submerged well below the waterline. By Let's start with Florida's secondaries, because they're kind of neat in a pointless, fun bit of trivia kind of way. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. Good anti-aircraft firepower, including access to. Florida Gov. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. This can be especially problematic if you've boosted her range and there are silly things like a bored Musashi or Champagne itching for targets. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. Here's what the numbers tell us. Calfornia does have a higher muzzle velocity and thus better AP penetration over distance. I HATE when people hinge whether they are going to buy a ship or not based on her reivew. California's AP penetration is okay. I've sorted these ships by the formula I like to use (DPS x [range-1km]) to give a better, but not entirely accurate, impression of AA effectiveness -- the logic being that longer range AA is better than shorter range AA. When it comes to Florida vs California to live, Florida is significantly more affordable than most parts of California. "Philly Daily" hasn't visited the forum site since 2016, did you know? North Florida are 4-1 in their last 5 games. Tier VII battleship. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this article are current as of patch 0.9.5.1. There's lots of ways they could have gone about it, though I think the most elegant solution would have been to give her 32mm structural plate on her bow, stern, deck and upper hull, akin to a tier VIII battleship. Well, this accidentally turned into a much longer review than I had intended. I was originally just going to line up Florida alongside California, compare the two and then pull a surprise-reveal that they both suck equally. Instead, I learned last week that Ship Comrade, the site run by @Critter8 that has hosted my reviews since the first quarter of 2016 was going to close down. Instead of working on how to cleverly cast shade on anyone that enjoyed either one of these tier VII American premium battleships, I spent the better part of two days going through years worth of archived jpegs and text, reflecting on the years I've spent writing for World of Warships and all of the help, support and encouragement Critter8 provided me. And she gains naught for these handicaps. Phenomenal AA power is watered down more heavily than American Lite Beer. As we've already covered, she doesn't really have that much better of a chance of doing so than Arizona. Ron DeSantis exacts punishment, takes over Disney district on eve of book launch. Had she been strong, I think I could have just sat aside and let people discover that for themselves. Thus cutting through all of the crap, California's only significant change is her range increase over Arizona and she pays for this with truly appalling gun fire arcs. Along with either A: removing IFHE or B: changing DCP and Repair Party to have slightly faster CD's and Repair Party to fix more pen damage if IFHE stays. Florida uses an American battleship version of her, Finally in the last slot, you have your choice between a, Finally, in slot four, fire damage mitigation is still your best option so. In World of Warships, Florida represents the design XVI-C if the North Carolina-class would have ever been built this way. She also presents the same battlecruiser characteristics as Champagne and Slava with an improved dispersion but lighter armor than other battleships at her tier. Would you prefer if they decided based on other CCs instead? I imagine I would like it a lot more than Rado or Calibut, certainly not more than Scharnhorst., Fun things I learned in training matches this week. Unlike Arizona which finds herself occasionally enjoying the 36km x 36km claustrophobic maps of lower tiers, California more often than not sees the 42m x 42km and 48km x 48km maps of higher tiers. California's reach partially mitigates this, but only partially. follow. Usually it comes down to the captain to decide if a ship is worth it or not. For example, I loved the Hipper class and Prinz Eugen while most view California isn't difficult to play. WebUpcoming Pow Wows Indigenous Institute of the Americas 16th Annual IIAmericas Celebration 2022 Mar 31 - Apr 2, 2023 - Cleburne TX March 31 - April 2, 2023 Honoring Indigenous Cultures, Dance and Art FRIDAY 4-9pm - Gourd Dance SATURDAY 10am - 7pm Children's Pow Wow InterTribal More Information Mascoutin Society Winter Social Really highlights the value of crossing the T - which, of course, no one doesbecause it doesnt work in WoWS. Anemic damage values on both her HE and AP rounds along with poor fire setting. She doesn't have improved heals like the British battleships. TALLAHASSEE Flexing his power over one of Floridas largest employers, Gov. California is very sneaky for a tier VII battleship. She has greatly improved anti-aircraft firepower and she's more stealthy. Now, Republican Florida Gov. I think she's too soft to be good enough to be a true BB and that makes it doubly hard when paired at top or mid tier where you are expected to be the beater for your team. Small hit point pool for a tier VII battleship. The victory snapped a three-game losing streak and was only the third in February following the upset of the Tennessee Volunteers to open the month along with a My Dallas and Helena should have the same pen as my Cleveland and Seattle, with or without IFHE in the game. Thank you for having the integrity to call WG out on their shenanigans. Enjoy your break, you earn it every time you do one of these. The best that can be said is that California won't be high on the enemy aircraft's priority list. Now that said, with this high-profile release covered and my feels (hopefully) clearly broadcast, I'm taking some much needed time off. But playing a standard-type battleship at tier VII or above needs to come with some pretty juicy perks or I'm not biting. Skill Floor: Simple / Casual / CHALLENGING / DifficultSkill Ceiling: Low / Moderate / HIGH / Difficult. California uses New Mexico's 356mm/50 caliber guns rather than Arizona's 356mm/45s. You need speed to reach thatposition in time, but if you do, you can sink MO in two salvos, allowing you to not rely on torps by other ships to take it down. Hell, if you're a fan of PVE you get an even better deal with most scenarios now being limited to tier VI these days. Simply tragic. One of these is California, the other Arizona. Thank you for everything. And thank you all for reading. Florida had a cumulative rate as much as 84% higher than Californias last fall. Florida's upgrade choices are pretty dull. The issue is their inflexibility. WebCalifornia is more of a dry heat while Florida is more humid It's generally sunny more so in california than in florida. Picking her up and farming some damage is pretty easy. Queens are 2-3 in their last 5 games. The first element is symptomatic of American battleships as a whole, especially the new line of American battleships that Florida heralds. At 33.5 seconds per volley, Florida's reload isn't as bad as some of the others in the new tech-tree, but let's not mince words: It sucks to wait that long between trigger pulls. I can stomach this if the results for waiting are particularly amusing, however Florida's gunnery is an exercise in frustration for me because of my second gripe: Florida's shell hits are not satisfying. Florida's shells, both AP and HE, don't hit especially hard. Their damage values are lower than you might expect for a 356mm weapon. In fact, Florida's damage output on her AP and HE shells is most closely matched by those off the sixteen-gun Lyon. Lyon has only a 30 second reload, I remind you, 3.5 seconds faster than Florida with a four-gun advantage. Compare: Her individual hits just aren't doing as much damage as other American battleships. While she still has better broadside weight than the ten-gun armed New York-class, she's well behind the other twelve-gun armed American standards despite having a better reload time than all of them. This deficit in shell damage (combined with her slower reload) means that in terms of raw damage potential, Florida falls way behind, ending up in the bottom half of the DPM charts despite her large number of guns. I HATE when people hinge whether they are going to buy a ship or not based on her reivew. WHEN: Monday, Feb. 27, 7 p.m. You'll probably have to shell out some extra cash for the Freedom camo, whether that will be through a bundle or with doubloons after the fact. Tip from Donald L. Tucker Center is at 7 p.m. I fear that these buffs will blindside people to what is nothing more than an already existing tier VI premium with a tier VII price tag. Most, if not all,also need their alpha nerfed slightly so they aren't deleting cruisers quite the same way they are now (enough that basically instead of say 2 citadels and 4 overpens to destroy a cruiser you'd need 2-3 of those overpens to be solid hits). However, without it being paired with improved agility or durability, this bonus is merely nice to have, rather than ship-defining. This means the moment you touch their rudder, they dump their speed faster than a tweaked-out college student having their dorm inspected. DD's need their stealth back, or they need survivability. Thank you a lot! WG!!! Great work . as usual. Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 guns in 4x3 turrets in an A-B-X-Y superfiring configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 8x2 turrets in superfiring pairs on either side of the ship facing fore and aft. As much as I need a break right now, USS California is a big enough name to elicit sales simply merely by reputation. Decent gunnery dispersion with 1.9 sigma. Based on our research, heres the ranking of states where average annual car insurance rates are the most expensive: Florida: $2,560. Hes played the game since then but you can tell he has not played it much based on HOW he plays some ships. This screenshot makes me sad. Queens are 2-3 in their last 5 games. Her improved dispersion via sigma will only be apparent over the course of multiple games rather than individual matches. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. You probably want, Arizona & California's Main Battery Differences. It's such a bloody shame. However, the larger map sizes makes this a lot more problematic. . Ouch. I don't know why Wargaming decided to neuter Florida's fire setting so badly. I guess this will encourage players to reach for AP whenever possible. Keep in mind that these values do not include the fire resistance of their opponents nor the ship's accuracy. Fire resistance values against the opponents Florida usually faces is anywhere between 30% to 45% or so. So if you're managing to hit with 1/3 of Florida's shells against a tier VIII target, then instead of 4 fires and change, you're more likely going to see one per minute. Maybe. I wouldn't be a Community Contributor (CC) if it weren't for Critter8. I'm not sure the WGNA CC-program would have even existed if it weren't for him. Back in 2015, before there was a Community Contributor program, content creators like myself worked unsupported by Wargaming in any capacity. The predecessor to the NA-CC program was Club Wargaming which promised the world and delivered nothing but a booger-green title on the forums. Club Wargaming included dozens of content creators which had sprung up during Closed and Open Beta, including some big names like @PhlyDaily. All of us were paying out of pocket to produce content or having to rely on donations from fans to get access to the newest premium content. Critter8 took exception to this. He had made Ship Comrade -- a fan site whose best early features included tracking Rank Battle progress and had one of (if not THE) first Captain Skill calculator. He took his fandom seriously and wanted a professional relationship with Wargaming to facilitate content production. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. This is why I took issue with West Virginia appearing in her Pearl Harbor mien and not that of Surigao Strait. Now, let me be clear: Arizona, the tier VI American premium, is awesome. Make no mistakes, Florida is a tricky girl, but if you figure her out she will do very well in Narai. Otherwise, any of the other T7 BB's will be easier to run with. This is why I frown on a difference of 0.1 sigma being used as a selling feature -- it's a "spreadsheet" value that will affect a ship over the course of several games but isn't likely to be significant within a single match. For randoms it looks like she is a really tough ship to play, but what about Operations like Narai?, I give this rating 5 out of 10. Trouble is, I don't insist on such a ship being American; if I want a ship which does the things Florida does, I have KGV and Lyon. I think the real unfortunate detriment here is that it makes California more vulnerable to torpedoes. This is how ALL of your people should think! Florida's consumables are a little weird. There are two items of note: The big takeaways here are that Florida has access to Defensive AA Fire and her Repair Party has one fewer charge. As far as gimmicks go, it's downright laughable in the current meta. Good concealment with a surface detection as low as 11.8km. Whenever I use a BB for Narai, I prefer to go east of convoy so that I can catch MO broadside when it turns. I'm left to wonder what the point of California's design implementation as is. Thank you for having the integrity to call WG out on their shenanigans. This means, gunnery wise, you're paying more money for a worse experience. You know it. Arizona has better upper-hull armour. You see, the normal American tech-tree battleships have an artificial boost added to their engines -- they don't bleed speed like normal battleships do. VERDICT: You would think that for a sniper-battleship, her guns would be fun. But they're not fun. I didn't have fun at all with these weapons (except for maybe paddling a lolibote or two at very close range. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. Taylor Jones. Both wins and 109k average damage. Without allies to road-block, California will be run down, sneaky or not. Other than Shimakaze (which needs it only really on it's stock torps) the old IJN torp line needs the range it's torps are spotted back down to the same levels as every other nation not using DWT's, or at least cut in half or reduced to .1 over. Over on the defensive end, the Panthers Catch the excitement and bet with Tipico! I see that champagne wont be a good time for you to review ,but thats okay. This is the first meeting of the season between the two programs both coming off of big, emotional wins. The net effect is that though California has a 20.5 knot top speed, she's usually flirting with much less -- as little as 15.3 knots at 4/4 engine settings. As a result, Florida is growing; and California is watching an out-migration of the wealthy, the middle class and major employers. WG executive 1: "Hmm, not enough suckers are buying this new ship. Florida played solid defense throughout the night, holding Georgia to 33.3 percent from the field and 18.2 percent from 3-point range (4-of-22) while recording 8 steals and 6 blocked shots. Take this review lightly. The final difference is cost. So, you can keep your Iowas, the romance (to me) lies in names like West Virginia, Tennessee and California. It isn't anywhere near as vulnerable. The reload time is my biggest issue.. It could be worse, I suppose. All you really need to know are the battleship basics: use the correct ammo, beware of flashing your sides, try not to get left behind. Let's pretend Arizona doesn't exist. Top Speed: 20.5 knotsTurning Radius: 640mRudder Shift Time: 14.7 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 3.7/s. USS California's inclusion in World of Warships bothers me on so many levels. But the winter surge slammed California, and that gap narrowed to 11%. Time to re-use a graphic because battleship skill optimization has stagnated! Summary so far: California's concealment is meant to be her saving grace. March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. I want to like the Florida but she may very well be out of my skill range which happens. The totals have gone OVER in 3 of Queens' last 5 games. By Some places in Florida have been ranked 8% California uses American battleship dispersion with 1.9 sigma versus Florida's battlecruiser dispersion with 1.7 sigma. Florida feels appreciably more accurate than most other American battleships, though her lower sigma value will make her feel only slightly better than ships like California or Arizona. The Roma is performing fairly well compared to other tier 8 BB's and she is far from the strongest with some incredibly glaring weaknesses. The following is a review of California, the tier VII American battleship. I was curious about this ship as i really love playing Arizona. Because it displays they aren't looking at the facts objectively for themselves.. California is a hard pass. California can give you some reasonable games. Unlike my normal dispersion tests, as Arizona and California can't equip the dispersion reducing ASM1 upgrade, their fields look comparatively larger than ships of the same tier. They could have just as easily remained a footnote in the war, left behind by fate. Bet now! The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay for this ship. It was provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this review are current as of patch 0.9.9. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. The totals have gone OVER in 7 of Queens' 11 last games at home. As much as I would like to be excited about her range, she needs it or the ship simply doesn't work. Furthermore, it's not going to put off a determined tier VIII carrier even for a moment. These weapons are not worth upgrading any more than you would find it worthwhile to upgrade North Carolina's or Alabama's secondaries. The most pressing thing to worry about when playing Florida is her citadel. Unlike the other "sniper" battleships like Slava and Champagne, the "softness" of Florida's hull is barely a concern. The 25mm extremities which damn her higher tiered cousins do not apparently have a lower-tier equivalency. I was expecting Florida to appear with 19mm of extremity armour but she instead clones the higher tiered ship weakness with 25mm instead. Given that all of the other tier VI and VII battleships are rocking 26mm worth of extremity plate, the loss of a single millimeter is not that much of a drawback. At most, this makes Florida slightly more vulnerable to HE shells from small and medium caliber guns -- specifically 152mm HE shells from tiers VII and below do not need to reach for Inertial Fuse for HE Shells in order to stack direct damage against Florida as they would against her tier-mates. Similarly, Florida is vulnerable to 120mm HE shells with Inertial Fuse for HE Shells. That's really the extent this soft skin provides in terms of vulnerability. Otherwise her superstructure, upper hull and amidships deck all conform to normal parameters for a tier VII battleship. Summary so far: Worse protection than Arizona, tier for tier, but that's largely owing to a deficit of hit points as a tier VII battleship. With a base 900m advantage over Arizona, this is supposed to facilitate not only engaging the enemy but escaping from difficult situations. Once you start shooting atbroadside targets? NikoPower (of CorgiFleet fame). From those conversations, For me, Ship Comrade allowed me to greatly increase the quality of my reviews. This long format, like you're seeing here with Florida, was facilitated entirely by having my content written for Ship Comrade. Critter8 encouraged CCs like myself and, I am here and there every where and no where. You have a lot to learn from Ms. Before patch 0.8.0, the levels of AA firepower California puts out would have been formidable and worth celebrating. Now that said, with this high-profile release covered and my feels (hopefully) clearly broadcast, I'm taking some much needed time off. But her bow? If they don't want people comparing her to Arizona, Arizona needs to be pulled. All of Arizona's decks are 26mm). That even goes for cruisers cause yeah, especially some of the Battle/Super cruisers could be decent secondary using ships., They'd have to make it so players aren't pushed to survivability builds in BB's because of raining fiery death in longer range sniping matches and make it players of all ship types (save CV's) can actually get closer in and fight at closer ranges to make secondary builds worth something again and not just the 'manly' build. He approached me about my frustrations with Club Wargaming and he took an active leadership role among the various content creators to approach Wargaming about our complaints. It was by his initiative that the WGNA CC-program took shape under NikoPower (of CorgiFleet fame). From those conversations, @iChase, @NoZoupForYou, @Notser, @TitiuBlack, Critter8 and I became the first NA-CCs in early January of 2016. While I could gush endlessly about everything NikoPower did for us, it was Critter8 who stands out as the leader we needed. He brought the six of us would-be professionals (with integrity) together. She's missing an ice-breaker bow like the aforementioned German ships. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). Okay fine Germany get's 1/4 that allows theirs to even wreck BB's when they hit weaker armour spots, fine, USN 127 mm guns should still have some decent range and be able to aim someplace they do damage on non-DD's and not just be fire starters. The totals have gone OVER in 3 of Queens' last 5 games. You can also forget about successfully kiting or disengaging when things turn sour. Like American Lite Beer, the CV rework has a lot to answer for. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 Mk11 rifles in 3x4 turrets in an A-B-X super-firing configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 6x2 turrets and 4x1 turrets. Florida can land a lot of hits with her HE shells. I don't want to touch California. The 0.8s improved reload time and harder hitting AP shells are okay, but you can't feel the 0.1 sigma difference. Florida man, Florida man Guess the tune. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating, except angry anime girl gif, I give this rating 5 out of 10. You need speed to reach thatposition in time, but if you do, you can sink MO in two salvos, allowing you to not rely on torps by other ships to take it down. Historical Ship and 2. This exaggerated manoeuvre bleeds speed (to say nothing of changing her heading and possibly navigating away from battle), further slowing her already ponderous pace. If I were to purchase one, Florida would get my money for sure., Whilst I appreciate the very solid review you have provided for yet another ship, I am far more appreciative of your last few paragraphs on @Critter8and the rest of you folks. in other words, you are more likely to find claifornians in claifornia than floridians in florida The only Florida Ive seen in Narai was deleted 3 minutes in somehow. In a way I'm glad there's not a ship named after my home state they can give this sort of treatment to. We already got that game play and at a better price and matchmaking. I do so hope they finally understand how important an active, vocal gaming community is to a game such as WoWS., Thanks for sharing a bit of history with us., Awesome retrospective. If you're trying to get from A to B as fast as possible, you're not going to want to touch your rudder. I find california to have more of a culture than florida. Florida is the state that more or less stayed open during the pandemic and thrived in its defiance. Florida is 10-6 when scoring more than 69.3 points. Florida has access to two different camouflage patterns. By default, she comes with Type 10 Camouflage. However. Thanks for your time on the review @LittleWhiteMouse. The only thing to watch out for is if one your DD/CL uses smoke and hide all other ships, MO will target you and you don't want that with Florida's armor. Double Down, Ohio! When it comes to my battleships, I know what I like. WebFlorida and California are remarkably similar for their warm climates, beaches, tourist destinations, immigrant populations, and more, but both states could not be more And depending on nation, out right changes to how the ship play. She is to Arizona what Alabama is to Massachusetts & North Carolina-- entirely forgettable and an unfortunate waste of money for worse game play. February 28, 2023 11:24 am ET. The moneyline odds say Florida has a 62.3% chance of winning this game. USN could choose between type of plane, type of ordnance, etc. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. Thank you for the preemptive warning, I mean review on this one. This picture is the best thing I could think of to illustrate CA's introduction to Queens are 3-2 in their last 5 games against the spread. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. The Wildcats score just 1.4 fewer points per game (67.4) than the Gators give up (68.8). California isn't fun to play and that's her greatest crime. In their past 10 Tier for tier, Arizona is the better protected ship with her armour and hit points meaning more at tier VI than California's at tier VII. Wargaming knows it too. (37% damage reduction for Arizona vs 36% for California). Very slow top speed of 20.5 knots and poor handling as a result despite her smaller turning circle radius.